By showering condolences and awards upon women abroad (while dishing out condemnation and reprimands to their respective governments and police forces), and at the same time turning American assault victims into numbers and instructing police to first ask a survivor what she was wearing or why she was outside of her home after dark, the government of the “greatest nation in the world” is telling the millions and millions of survivors within its borders that it doesn’t give a fuck. It’s telling them that survivors and victims in other countries deserve more sympathy (because they weren’t asking for it “over there”). It’s telling them that they didn’t actually experience anything at all because that sort of thing just doesn’t happen here. It’s telling them that if they are actually telling the truth (i.e. the perpetrator was a stranger in an alleyway), the best we can do for you is completely whitewash your experience, remove all aspects of your identity, and replace it with a number and a big red stamp that reads “DAMAGED.”
Not good enough. Not nearly good enough.
Oh yes, the government is sooooo wrong for ignoring these victims.
Wait, but who ignores male victims of abuse? That’s right, feminists. You silence men everywhere, not just at home. Remember those schoolgirls in Nigeria that were abducted? Well, just a month or so before, another gang went into a school, killed all the boys, but spared all the girls. Nothing in the media at all. Why? Because they couldn’t give a shit about the plight of boys. They don’t in the first world, why would it be any different?
Who controls the media? Men. Specifically the 6 CEOs of Disney, News corp, Comcast, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS. Who control 90% of the media.
So how do you blame feminists for not reporting on the killing of males?
It’s almost like you would rather a movement about equality for women be more concerned for males than females.
If you are so concerned about the plight of males how about you learn from feminist and lobby those in power to address the issues you are concerned with rather than attacking a group that has no control over how and if those issues are covered.
And who’s the majority of the population? Women. If anybody says anything that’s anti-feminist, or not focused on women, they get shot down straight away. Male politicians don’t do shit about it because they need votes, and if they spoke up, a lot of women may switch allegiance to another party, which could kick them out of power. Same goes for the media - feminists have boycotted a shitton of things in the past that have eventually had to bend at the knee to them.
We do try to lobby people and speak up, but every time anyone does, feminists call them misogynistic for not focusing on women! Remember the protests at the University of Toronto? A group of feminists literally blocked people from going to listen to Warren Farrell speak - some of whom didn’t even know how the guy was and who just wanted to hear all sides of the argument.
But you know what? I’m glad that you admitted that feminism is only for women. I’m saving that remark for the next time somebody says “but feminism is for equality for everyone!” So now you’ve admitted that, I’ll take it you’ll have no problem with the MRA operating, since feminism doesn’t care about men.
Where did I say that Feminism is only for women?
I’m pretty sure that what i said was, “It’s almost like you would rather a movement about equality for women be more concerned for males than females.”
That is like me saying, “You would like the movement to get Kevin Love to the Lakers to be more concerned with getting Kevin Durant to the Lakers.”
If you are unable to address a logical statement without trying to change the meaning to what you want it to be, maybe you should concentrate on your ability to reason logically.
Additionally, How do you address the systemic disadvantage that women have other than addressing issues that affect women? Now if attacking the system in place that disadvantages women helps all people then is that movement not for everyone?
I love when you idiots believe because I am concerned with equality for women that I am female.
So this is a male telling you that you attacking Feminism(aka female equality) is Misogynistic. If you were asking for male issues be addressed without attacking a female equality movement that wouldn’t be misogynistic.
If this is difficult for you to understand, I get it, we have already established that logical reasoning is hard for you.
If it’s about “equality for women” and not “equality”, then ofc it’s only going to be about women - why would they give a shit about guys? Also you realise being a male feminist will screw you over eventually. Feminists don’t care about you. Sure you’re not a masochist?
Let’s put this simply since you have a hard time with reasoning.
If I have 100 lbs on side A of a scale and 77 lbs on side B of a scale, that scale is out of balance.
Now there are two ways to balance this scale, to either add weight to side B or to remove weight from side A.
To say I am concerned with the Equality of Side B, means I am looking to add to side B, because that is how I would make it equal.
To say I am concerned with the Equality of Side A means that I am looking to remove from side A in order to make it equal to side B.
Can you see how that works?
Do you know what won’t ever achieve equality? Knocking the weight out of the hands of people trying to add to side B.
Also, its weird that a guy attacking me directly is telling me that the other side doesn’t want me there. It sure seems like you don’t want me on your side not the other way around.
I take it the 100/77lbs idea was taken from the “wage gap”? The one that doesn’t actually exist and has been debunked countless times? Plus if you’re going for the scale analogy, they’re already balanced, with both around 90. By trying to make side B reach 100, you’re elevating it above side A.
Logic isn’t your thing. I guess statistics aren’t either. These are real numbers that are actually affecting people’s lives. Explaining why something is the way it is does not make it go away. here is the most common argument regarding the pay gap “myth.”
Men were almost twice as likely as women to work more than 40 hours a week, and women almost twice as likely to work only 35 to 39 hours per week. Once that is taken into consideration, the pay gap begins to shrink. Women who worked a 40-hour week earned 88% of male earnings.
Then there is the issue of marriage and children. The BLS (US Bureau of Labor) reports that single women who have never married earned 96% of men’s earnings in 2012.
The supposed pay gap appears when marriage and children enter the picture. Child care takes mothers out of the labor market, so when they return they have less work experience than similarly-aged males.
But Explaining why something is the way it is does not make it go away. Just like explaining why the sky is seen as blue to our eyes does not make us no longer see it as blue.
But why is it that women have less experience than men after they have children?
Could it be because they have no right to have a job after they leave to have a child? There is no workplace protection for a woman to go and have a baby. The Supreme Court even ruled as such.
So now they cannot go back to the job they were doing for the same pay and are forced to take less pay for a lesser job. But lets not just trust random words from some idiot on tumblr, how about we ask someone who has studied the issue from an economic perspective, someone who’s job is to study wage issues at the Department of Labor.
Economists generally attribute about 40% of the pay gap to discrimination – making about 60% explained by differences between workers or their jobs. However, even the “explained” differences between men and women might be more complicated. For example: If high school girls are discouraged from taking the math and science classes that lead to high-paying STEM jobs, shouldn’t we in some way count that as a lost equal earnings opportunity?
But even all that aside we are ignoring what the argument that the pay gap is a myth actually said. When comparing all full time working women to all full time working men the wage gap is still $0.88 for women for every dollar a man makes.
When you compare single women to all men it shrinks to 96% of mens earning.
None of those are equal.
Additionally, what that is saying is that the only a way a women can come close to earning what a man does is to limit all her life choices, no family, no spouse, no children. But that is a choice that you and I never have to make, we can make more money than women in the same positions while having a spouse, children and a complete family.
But let me guess none of this matters because you think things are equal. Even though facts are right there for you too see just like me.
But since to you $0.88=$1.00 how about you just give 12% of your paycheck back to your employer, since it is all equal.